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> Friday Mixed Round 2 Draw   (posted Nov  24, 2014)

The draw for the second round of curling for the Friday Mixed League is now available on our website.
The round starts on November 28th.
To see the ice dates sheduled for the season and the draw for second round of games, click HERE

> Grey Cup Tickets Due (posted Nov 19, 2014)

Frank Mitchell is reminding all of us that Grey Cup raffle ticket sales money is due next week.
If you haven't already sold them, then get out there and get it done.  It is not that hard to do.  It is all for the worthy cause of upgrading our club.
You can drop your returns off with Frank, one of the other DLCC directors on your draw, at the Board Room,  or through the mail slot in the door.
Please use the return envelope your team was provided or a new one from the box just outside the Board Room door.
Please remember to fill out your name, team and amount returned.  It would also be gratefully appreciated that sold ticket stubs' scores are scratched and the writing is legible.

> Monday Mens Round 1 Results   (posted Nov 12, 2014)

The Monday Mens League completed Round 1 play on November 10th. 
The standings  &  2nd round schedule have been compiled. 
League play resumes on November 17th.  Please check the schedule for your game.
The Verne Sheldon team won all 5 of their games in "C" group  in round 1 and have 40 points in the standings.  They will move to first spot in "B" group for the second round.  The Matt Peterson and Allan Neyedly teams won 4 games in "B" group and with 39 points each will occupy the next two spots for the start of the 2nd round. The Konrad Frye team won 4 games in "C" and moves into 4th spot in "B" for the 2nd round with 34 points.  The Rob Keough and Keith Marshall teams won 3 games in "B" and will follow next with 33 points each.
The Dan Sul team won 3 games in "C" group and with 28 points moves to 1st place in "C" group for the 2nd round.
The Cris Harms team won 2 games in "C" group play for 22 points and will be in the 2nd spot for round 2.
The Brent Mackie  team won 1 game in "B" and drops to "C" for the next round with 21 points.  The Rob Wilson  team won 1 game in "C" and moves into 4th spot in "C" for the next round with 16 points.  The Ian Brown and Gary Wright teams failed to win a game in round 1 and with make up the final 2 spots in "C" group for round 2.

>Thursday Mens Round 1 Results   (posted Nov 9, 2014)

The Thursday Mens League completed round 1 play on the November 6th early draw. 
The standings  &  2nd round schedule have been compiled.  
League play resumes on the November 13th late draw.  Please check the schedule for your game.
The Sean McCreary team went 5 - 0 in "B" group  round 1 games and will hold the top spot in "B" for the 2nd round with 45 points.
The Reg SIms team won 4 games in "B" and moves into 2nd spot in "B" for the 2nd round with 39 points. The John McLachlan, Brent Mackie  and Brandon Cohoe teams won 3 games in "C" and will move up to "B" for the next round with 28 points each.   
The Cliff  Beaulieu team won 2 games in "B" and  with 27 points drops to the top spot in "C" group for the 2nd round.
The Keith Sheldon team tied earned 22 points after 2 wins in "C" group and follows in the next spot.  The Garry Parker and Bill Heinkel  teams drop from "B" to "C" with 1 win and 21 points each. The Ryan Kurtz team rounds out the field on Thursday night with 16 points.

> Deer Lodge Business Girls Round 2 Draw   (posted Nov 7, 2014)

The draw for the second round of curling for the Deer Lodge Business Girls Curling Club is now available on our website.
To see the draw , click HERE

> Wednesday Mens Round 1 Results   (posted Nov 6, 2014)

The first round in the  Wednesday Mens League completed on November 5th. 
The  standings  &  2nd round schedules for the  "A/B"  and "C/D"  groups have been compiled.  
League play resumes on November 12th.
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All the groups have been reconstituted based on total points earned year to date.
For the second round the two draws on Wednesday night have been reorganized so that each draw will have 8 teams.
This will be 4 teams in each group with :  groups "A" & "B" on one draw and "C" & "D" on the other.
There will be 2 crossover games between groups for each team within a draw.
 Please check the schedules for your next game time, taking extra notice if your team changes groups due to the points.
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Summary of Results :
The Jack Gordon  team with 5 wins in "B"  takes the lead in "A" group with 45 points for round 2. The Mike Mahon team won 4 games  in "A group to follow next with 44 points. The Doug Pankratz  team won 5 games in "C" group to earn promotion to the 3rd spot in "A" for the 2nd round.  The Sean Grassie team went 3-2 and will remain in "A" group with 38 points. 
The Braden Calvert team went 2-3 in "A" group and with 32 points will drop to group "B".
The Brent Braemer team had 1 win in "A" group and will drop to group "C" for round 2 with 26 points.

The Rob Keough and Dave Johnson teams went 3-2 for 33 points each in "B" and will lead that group for round 2 followed by Calvert in 3rd spot.  The final spot in "B" group for the 2nd round will be taken by the Cliff Murphy team with 28 points after 3 wins in "C" group in round 1. They finished tied with the Art Riel team in points but earn the spot having defeated Riel in their head to head match.
The Kevin Shale team had a late start in group "B'" and didn't register a win so will drop into"D" group with 15 points.

Team Riel will lead up "C" group in round 2 followed by the Corey Thompson and Scott Peterson teams that had each won 2 games in "B" for 27 points. Team Braemer fills the last position in "C".

The Bill Crocker and Gary Morris  teams  went 2-3 in "C" group and with 22 points will drop to the top 2 spots in group "D".  The Kevin Shale and Art Riel teams will fill out "D"group for the 2nd round.

> Tuesday Mens Round 1 Results   (posted Nov 5, 2014)

The Tuesday Mens League completed Round 1 play on the November 4th late draw. 
The standings  & 2nd round schedule have been updated.  
League play resumes on the November 11th early draw.  Please check the schedule for your game.
The Wes Stevens team won 5 games in "C" group and moves into 1st spot in "B" for the 2nd round with 40 points.  The  John McLachlan and Jason Karpa teams had 4 wins in "B" and follow next with 39 points.  In 4th spot with 33 points is the Tim Will team after 3 wins in "B".    The Ryan Templeton team won 2 games and will continue in "B" for the next round with 27 points.
The Jim Bender Team went 0 - 5 in "B" group and will drop to "C" for the next round with 15 points.
The Gord Deacon, Doug Mackie and Garry Parker teams earned 2 victories each and tied at 22 points in first round play in "C".  The  Bill Hagidiakow team managed one victory for a total of 16 points.

> Santa Claus Parade  (posted Nov 2, 2014)

Curl Manitoba sent the following :
TEAM JONES, Olympic Gold Medalists are the Grand Marshalls of the Santa Claus Parade.  
CurlManitoba is hosting 2 curling block parties at 4 pm on November 15, 2014. 
CurlManitoba is looking for junior volunteers who would like to come and JOIN IN THE FUN !
The locations are Spence and Young and in front of the Radisson Hotel on Portage Ave.
The volunteers need to be at the location at 3:45 and be willing to pitch in and help til 4:45pm
To Volunteer
email  eowen@curlmanitoba.org   or
call 204-926-8408

> Help with Grey Cup Tickets   (posted Oct 30, 2014)

Grey Cup raffle ticket sales are well underway for this year.  However, we could use some additional help in this very critical fund raising activity for the club.
If you are able to assist with the sales effort please contact Frank Mitchell at 204-837-5923 or email fmitchell349@gmail.com.
Tickets come in packs of 10 or 20.

> Website Outage  (posted Oct 29, 2014)

As you may have noticed, this Deer Lodge website has not been available for a few days.  Last week we started having some problems at the Web Hosting Service that hosted our web pages for the last 5 years. They made software changes that resulted in us no longer being able to update anything on our website.  The only solution they could offer was to migrate us to a higher level of their service with a monthly charge of at least four times that of our current service.
The offer was declined in favor of moving our website to another Web Hosting Service.
Another company was contracted and our website data copied over.

> 2014-15 Kitchen Hours   (posted Oct 22, 2014)

Garnet's kitchen is scheduled to be open for service as follows :
Monday      10:00 am - 2:00 pm,  6:00 pm-10:00 pm
Tuesday       9:30 am - 2:00 pm,  6:00 pm-10:00 pm
Wednesday 10:00 am - 4:00 pm,  6:00 pm-10:00 pm
Thursday      9:30 am - 2:00 pm,   4:00 pm-10:00 pm
Friday         10:00 am - 2:00 pm,  5:00 pm-10:00 pm
Saturday       9:00 am - 1:00 pm
Sunday         9:00 am - 3:30 pm
Hours during bonspiels will be extended.

> Wednesday Mens Round 1 Draw UPDATE (posted Oct 16, 2014)

A new team has been recruited to join us on Wednesday nights, so no more byes !
The draw for the Wednesday(A+B) group has been updated for the last 3 games in Round 1.
Please refer to the web page :  Wednesday(A+B)

After Round 1 is completed all the groups will be reconstituted based on total points earned year to date.
The plan is to reorganize the two draws on Wednesday night to have each draw with 8 teams.
This will leave us with 4 teams in each group with :  groups "A" & "B" on one draw and "C" & "D" on the other.
There will be 2 crossover games between groups within each draw so that there will be no repeat games in a round.

> Past Presidents Night Date Change  (posted Oct 7, 2014)

There has been a changed in dates for this year's Past Presidents Night event.
It will now take place one week earlier on Saturday November 15.
The Saturday Night Mixed will move to Saturday November 22.
Thanks go to the Saturday Night Mixed League for accommodating the change.

> "Fish Fry" on Nov 7  (posted Oct 6, 2014)

Come to the club on Friday November 7th, and enjoy a tasty "Fish Fry" hosted by our kitchen caterer Garnet Sleeman.
Time : 5:30 - 8:00 pm

Menu :
Pickerel Fillets, Basmati Rice, Roast Potatoes, Green Beans Almondine, Baked Beans, Coleslaw, Pickle Tray, Clam Chowder soup, Tomato Florentine soup, Dessert, Tea & Coffee.

Tickets at the door :
Adults - $15.00, Seniors -  $12.00, Kids under 12 - $9.00

or save some cash and go for the,
Advance Tickets :    Adults - $14.00, Seniors -  $11.00, Kids under 12 - $8.00

See you there !

> Tuesday Mens League Round 1 Draw UPDATE  (posted Oct 6, 2014)

The draw for the first round of curling for the Tuesday Mens League has been updated on our website.
The first games for teams are on October 7th on the late draw.
We are back to an even number of teams so there are no byes.
To see the ice dates sheduled for the season and the draw for first round of games, click HERE

The new draw is posted on the bulletin board.
Winning teams please update the draw page after each draw to show results.

> Eight Ender Draws for 2014  (posted Oct 6, 2014)

The  "Eight Ender Draw" is restarting for the 2014-15 season on Monday October 6 prior to the Monday Mens League opening draw.
The last draw took place at the Mens Windup on April 11 with a healthy contribution being made to the pot.  There was no winner.
   
We are changing our draw dates this year from just Tuesdays and Wednesdays to a staggered day system in order offer the other leagues a chance to take part in the draw.
We will start off  with Monday&Tuesday this week then Tuesday&Wednesday next week followed by Wednesday&Thursday the next week and then Thursday&Friday, Friday&Monday etc.  A full set of dates for the season is available, click ......HERE.

As a reminder, the format of this fundraiser is a playing card progressive raffle.
A standard deck of cards is used (including the 2  jokers - 54 cards in total).   On each draw night, raffle tickets are sold from 6:30  to  9:00 pm  with 50% of sales going towards the progressive pot.  One ticket is then drawn from the tickets sold that night with the purchaser given the chance to pick a card from the deck.  
If the Eight of Clubs is picked then the purchaser is the winner of the accumulated pot !   Otherwise the purchaser receives a consolation prize of $20 (or $25 if a Joker is picked) and the losing card is removed from the deck.
For more details, click on Rules & Regulations.
The Lottery license # is LGA 1070-RF. 

> Wednesday Mens Round 1 Draws  (posted Oct 6, 2014)

The draws have been made for the first round of games in the Wednesday Mens League for the 2014-15 season. 

TheWednesday Night league is currently 9 short of the full complement of 24 teams.
We are still recruiting teams so stay tuned for any last minute changes 
The Wednesday(A+B) group will consist of 9 teams and Wednesday(C+D) group will have 6 teams.
The (A+B) group will have 4 teams in A, 5 in B and the (C+D) group will have 6 in C with none in D.
The groups play on separate draws alternating between 7 and 9:15 pm each week.
After each round the (A+B) and (C+D) groups will be totally reconstituted based on total points earned year to date.

Play starts the evening of October 8.
The Wednesday(A+B) group will be on the 7:00 pm draw. 
The Wednesday(C+D) group will be on the 9:15 pm draw. 
Please refer to the appropriate web pages for complete round 1 schedules:
 Wednesday(A+B),   Wednesday(C+D) .

Skips will be phoned or emailed to confirm their first game.
Note that team names reflect the individual identified as skip on application forms.

Draws will be posted on the bulletin board as usual.
Winning teams please update the draw page after each draw to show results. 

> Thursday Mens League Round 1 Draw   (posted Oct 5, 2014)

The draw for the first round of curling for the Thursday Mens League is now available on our website.
The first games for teams are on October 9th on the early draw.
To see the ice dates sheduled for the season and the draw for first round of games, click HERE

The Draw will be posted on the bulletin board as usual.
Winning teams please update the draw page after each draw to show results.

> Monday Mens League Round 1 Draw   (posted Oct 5, 2014)

The draw for the first round of curling for the Monday Mens League is now available on our website.
The first games for teams are on October 6th.
To see the ice dates sheduled for the season and the draw for first round of games, click HERE

The Draw will be posted on the bulletin board as usual.
Winning teams please update the draw page after each draw to show results.

> Deer Lodge Business Girls Round 1 Draw   (posted Oct 4, 2014)

The draw for the first round of curling for the Deer Lodge Business Girls Curling Club is now available on our website.
The first games for Tuesday teams are on October 7th and Thursday teams start on October 9th.
The Semi-Annual General Meeting is on Thursday Oct 9 at 7:45pm sharp.  Free drink for all attendees.
To see the ice dates sheduled for the season and the draw for first round of games, click HERE

> Friday Mixed Round 1 Draw   (posted Oct 4, 2014)

The draw for the first round of curling for the Friday Mixed League is now available on our website.
The first games for teams are on October 17th.
To see the ice dates sheduled for the season and the draw for first round of games, click HERE

> Curling Clinic/Workshop   (posted Oct 3, 2014)

In the last few years Tues/Thurs Business Girls and Wednesday Afternoon Ladies have co-hosted a pre-season curling clinic/workshop, this year the curling workshop will be Saturday Oct 18th 1:00-3:00. Tuesday/Thursday Morning Ladies are once again invited to participate. If you know of other curlers who would like to come to the workshop, please give them our contact information.

The fee of $10.00 is to cover the costs of instructors and refreshments. We have booked 3 sheets of ice and 3 instructors. There will be an instructor for those interested in Stick Curling. 

To ensure a safe, well organized workshop please contact (email or phone) Lou (832-2371) or myself (837-6697) to pre-register. Fees can be paid on Oct 18th. Lou and I look forward to hearing from you.

Have a great curling season.

Gail
President - DLWLCC 

> 2014 Icebreaker Bonspiel   (posted Sep 15, 2014)

The Deer Lodge Curling Club will again be hosting the Deer Lodge Icebreaker Bonspiel.  The event runs from Thursday October 2 through Sunday October 5.
The field includes 12 teams in each of the Junior Mens Junior Womens Divisions.
To see the teams and schedule click on. ...Teams.
For the draws , click on  ...Jr Womens Draw  or   ...Jr Mens Draw.
The rules for the event can be found here....Rules

Come out and enjoy some great curling !  

>DLCC Lil Rock & Bantam Info   (posted Sep 10, 2014)

Welcome to another year of Curling at Deer Lodge CC. We’re glad to have you with us.
Here is some basic info that curlers and their parents need to know about the upcoming season

Time slots for 2014-15 on Sundays


Little Rockers
( 6-10 yrs of age) – 2 pm – 2:45   Bantams ( 14 and under ) 3 pm – 5 pm

Start date: Oct 19, 2014
           Other Curling dates :
October – 26    November – 2, 19, 16, 23, 30     December- 14, 21
2015 – January- 11, 25    February- 1, 8, 15, 22    March – 1, 8, 15, 22, 29
NOTE: These dates may change as DLCC’s ice schedule evolves. You will be advised in advance of any special events taking place

Costs
– Little Rocks- $80        Bantam- $95
Please make cheques payable to DLCC Curling and don’t forget to fill in the medical forms

Equipment Required:
   
Curling shoes are recommended. Clean runners that have not been worn outside are OK.     No Outdoor shoes of any kind are allowed on the ice. A properly sized, removable full slider should be used. Removable grippers are also required, for safety reasons.
A properly sized curling broom depending on their height is required. A loaner broom can be used from our club initially, until one is obtained.
This equipment can be purchased at most major sporting goods stores or specialty curling outlets We strongly recommend that curlers have a gripper for each shoe. Please mark all equipment for easy identification.
Stretchy pants, sweats or track suit pants are recommended. Layered clothing, like a warm sweatshirt, vest or lightweight jacket , should also be worn and gloves or mittens.
All sessions start on time, so be early to get changed and ready for stretching. If you are unable to attend, please phone your co-ordinator to let them know.

Parents
- We need your help On ice and off. Those with some curling experience can help with instruction for the Little Rock curlers. Students wanting credit for Community services are welcome as well.

Contacts
-   Junior Co-ordinator – Doug Bauer – 204-697-0407
E-mail –    dlccjuniorbantam@gmail.com  or dlccjuniorlilrock@gmail.com.

>Registration Night Thurs Sep 18   (posted Sep 7, 2014)

Deer Lodge Curling Club is pleased to announce that registration for the upcoming season will be on Thursday, September 19th from 6 to 8 pm at the club.
Openings are available for teams and/or individual curlers in most of the leagues. Our curling leagues offer a wide variety of selection from competitive to just for fun, just check our Leagues page.
Returning teams are encouraged to get their applications in early to confirm their spots for the upcoming season.

> New Conveners for Friday Mixed  (posted Aug 21, 2014)

We have a change of conveners for the Friday Night Mixed League this season.  
Andrew and Vicki Gillingham will be taking over from Reg and Jayne Sims.
A big thank you goes to Jayne and Reg for their efforts over the last four years.
The Friday Mixed registration forms have been updated with the new contact information,
just  click on  FORMS  to find the download link ).

> Update to 2014 - 15 Curling Schedule   (posted June 20, 2014)

The DLCC curling schedule for the 2014-15 season has been updated as a result of the recently announced closing of the Victoria Curling Club and subsequent adjustments Curl MB  had to make to their schedule of events.
Our club has volunteered to host the December 5-7, 2014 Winnipeg Senior Mens Regionals previously allocated to the Victoria CC.  In addition, the Junior Regionals (Men and Women) after experiencing very low registrations last year had not yet been scheduled to any club. They have now been added to run in parallel with the Senior Mens Regionals at our club on these dates.  
League play initially scheduled for that weekend has been adjusted.  Leagues impacted are Friday Mixed, Saturday Niners, Saturday Mixed, Anaf283, St. James Legion and Little Rocks & Bantams.  These leagues schould revist their schedules on our website.
As noted in the previous news posting, a month by month overview is available by clicking on ..... Monthly Calendar.  A snapshot of the entire season can also be viewed from a link near the bottom of  that web page.
For a  specific league schedule please visit the Leagues  page and follow the links for the league through to its own 2014-15  "Schedule" link.
These first draft schedules are subject to change, so please remember to check back as the season approaches.
Some of the old web pages may still be sitting in your web browser's buffers so please remember to refresh each page.. 

> 2014 Golf Day & Registration BBQ (posted June 15, 2014)

Golf Day 2014 On Friday afetrnoon June 13th, over 50 golfers assembled for a shot gun start in the annual Deer Lodge Golf Day Texas Scramble at the Assiniboine Golf Club. The showers held off untill the very end of the round making it quite a nice day out on the course.
The Registration BBQ at the club kicked off after the golf. The big BBQ (courtesy of Muenther, the owner of the Foodfare at Mt Royal & Portage Ave.) was again available for everyone to grill their steaks. 
Following dinner the scores were tallied and organizer Tony Feheregyhazi handed out the prizes.  There was a tie for the low net team score for the day at 64 turned in by the John Alex, Tom Alix Tom Krahn & Mark Neuendorff group and the Cody Pearse, Brian Harrison, Chris Franklin & Sam Hart group. They both got the first place prizes.  Mike Mahon, Ian Mahon, Blair Smith and Kevin Exell were the the team with the second lowest net at 65.  The 3rd lowest team net score of 66 was the 2 man team of Jim Bender and Doug Bauer.  Tom Alix won the prize for the  longest drive of the day on hole number 3.  Closest to the pin honors went to Sam Hart for his shot on the par three 4th hole. 
After all the completed curling application forms were processed the names were put in a box and shuffled for the random selection for the free membership for 2014-15.  Congratulations to Wes Stevens  who skips a team on Tuesday nights.
A large thank you goes to Tony Feheregyhazi for organizing the day... and to Jody at the bar.
Click on the photo above to view pictures taken on  the course and in the lounge.
The club wishes to thank all those that came out to golf or attend the BBQ as the registration funds help keep paying the bills over the summer 

> 1st Draft of 2014 - 15 Curling Schedule   (posted May 25, 2014)

The first draft of the curling schedule for the 2014-15 season has been added to the web site. 
Highlights for this season include the kickoff Icebreaker Manitoba Junior Curling Tour bonspiel 2-5 Oct. 2014 and the 4th annual Sean Grassie DLCC Manitoba Curling Tour event 1-4 Jan. 2015.  
In addition to providing ice for the annual Curl Manitoba Open and Halfspiel bonspiels starting 15 Jan. 2015, one other Curl MB event has been assigned to Deer Lodge.  This is the the Youth Spring Open Bonspiel (shared with Granite CC & Wildewood CC) 2-4 Apr. 2015.
Thanksgiving Day is late in the year falling on October 13.  We started some League curling before Thanksgiving last year and will do so again this year.   Nothing will be scheduled for the holiday Thanksgiving weekend (Oct. 11 through 13).       
A month by month overview is available by clicking on ..... Monthly Calendar.  A snapshot of the entire season can also be viewed from a link near the bottom of  that web page.
For a  specific league schedule please visit the Leagues  page and follow the links for the league through to its own 2014-15  "Schedule" link.
These first draft schedules are subject to change, so please remember to check back as the season approaches.
Some of the old web pages may still be sitting in your web browser's buffers so please remember to refresh each page. 

> Annual Meeting 2014   (posted May 21, 2014)

This year's Annual Meeting took place on May 20, 2014 at 7:30 p.m. in the upstairs lounge of the club.
See meeting highlights.

> May 2014 Board Meeting   (posted May 16, 2014)

The Board of Directors met on Wednesday May 14, 2014 at 7:00 p.m. at the club.
See meeting highlights.

> MTS Wi-Fi Hotspot    (posted May 11, 2014)

Wi-Fi access to the internet at the club has been enhanced to include a MTS Wi-Fi Hotspot.
MTS customers who have Wireless or High Speed Internet service have free access to MTS Wi-Fi Hotspots.  
This is in addition to the club's current wi-fi access that will continue for patrons not covered by these MTS services.

> 1979 Team Fry Inducted   (posted May 9, 2014)

2014 Induction The 1979 Barry Fry Canadian Men's Championship Team from Deer Lodge was formally inducted into the Team category of the Manitoba Curling Hall of Fame at their Dinner held on Sunday May 4, 2014 at Canad Inns Polo Park.  
The team consisted of Barry Fry at skip, third Bill Carey, second Gord Sparkes, and lead Bryan Wood.  At the Provincial Consols Curling Championship in 1979 they won the event with a record of 7 wins and 1 loss. They were then successful at the Canadian Championship; with a record of 10 wins and 1 loss.  Three of the team were already inductees of the Manitoba Curling Hall of Fame for other accomplishments :
Barry Fry as a curler (1994) and as a member of the 1993 Canadian Mixed Team (2013),   Bryan Wood as a curler (1995), and as member of the 1970- 1971 Canadian and World Championship Team (1987) and Gord Sparkes in the curler/builder category (2004).   
There were several tables of Deer Lodgers and family members in attendance. To see photos from the event just click on the photo ( thanks to Wayne Young for the photos).  
In addition to the usual curling dignitaries, special guests included Province of Manitoba Minister Peter Bjornson and City of Winnipeg Councillor Grant Nordman.  Most speeches were brief save for one.
The other Inductees that evening included :  the 1978 Cathy Pidzarko Canadian Ladies' Championship Team in the Team category, Mitch Tarapasky and Hans Wuthrich in the Builder category  and finally Steve Gould in the Curler category. 




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